Posts

Showing posts with the label Charismatic

9 Weird Church practices

Image
  1. Prosecuting fellow believers through online platforms without ecclesial process The Apostle Paul instructed the church in Corinth to judge matters internally (1 Cor. 6). Today, however, the church has outsourced judgment to the Twittersphere. Believers now play judge, jury, and executioner without due process or any semblance of ecclesial order. Social media has become a tribunal, and reputations can be assassinated with a single click. This practice not only bypasses biblical structures of accountability but also reveals how biblically illiterate and spiritually reckless much of the body has become. The church is not a mob. It is a family governed by elders, not online outrage. 2. Presumptuously calling for a 'court of Heaven' For over a decade, the “courts of Heaven” teaching has gained traction in certain charismatic circles. The idea is that one can summon a heavenly court to break generational curses and demonic strongholds. While there are kernels of truth — God is a...

Tongues and Denominations and other people

Image
  Tongues: Denominational Perspectives and Current Practices Christian denominations and movements have varying beliefs regarding tongues as initial evidence vs. tongues as a spiritual gift . Below is a comparison of major traditions and their teachings. A. Classical Pentecostal Denominations (Believe in Tongues as Initial Evidence) These groups originated from the Azusa Street Revival (1906) and emphasize tongues as the initial evidence of Spirit baptism. 1. Assemblies of God (AG) Official Belief: Spirit baptism is a distinct, post-salvation experience. Tongues is the initial physical evidence of Spirit baptism. Tongues in 1 Corinthians 12 is a separate gift given selectively. Key Document: Assemblies of God Position Paper on Baptism in the Holy Spirit Supporting Scripture: Acts 2:4, 10:44-46, 19:6 Theological Authorities: Stanley M. Horton, William W. Menzies 2. Church of God (Cleveland, TN) Similar to AG, but with a stronger emphasis on holiness living ...

Further Analysis: Tongues as Initial Evidence vs. Spiritual Gift

Image
  This deeper dive will analyze the historical, theological, and linguistic perspectives on this debate. We will also explore early church history, Greek word studies, and responses to common counterarguments. I. Deeper Biblical Analysis: Acts vs. Paul’s Letters The Pentecostal argument primarily relies on Acts , while the Evangelical/Charismatic argument relies on Paul’s letters (especially 1 Corinthians). Let's examine these sources in more depth. A. The Book of Acts: Is It Normative or Descriptive? 1. Pentecostal Argument: Acts Shows a Consistent Pattern Pentecostals argue that speaking in tongues is always present when people receive the Holy Spirit: Acts 2:1-4 (Pentecost) – Tongues is explicitly mentioned. Acts 10:44-46 (Cornelius) – Tongues is explicitly mentioned. Acts 19:1-6 (Ephesus) – Tongues is explicitly mentioned. Acts 8:14-17 (Samaritans) – Tongues is not mentioned explicitly, but something visible and audible happened (implied evidence). Conclu...

Tongues: Initial Evidence of Spirit Baptism vs. Spiritual Gift

Image
  Tongues: Initial Evidence of Spirit Baptism vs. Spiritual Gift This analysis explores both perspectives— tongues as initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit and tongues as a spiritual gift —using biblical citations, theological arguments, and scholarly sources. I. Tongues as the Initial Evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit This position is primarily held by Classical Pentecostals (e.g., Assemblies of God, Church of God, Foursquare Church). It teaches that every believer baptized in the Holy Spirit will speak in tongues as the first outward sign . Biblical Evidence from Acts Pentecostals emphasize the Book of Acts as a pattern: Day of Pentecost (Acts 2:1-4) The disciples were filled with the Holy Spirit and "began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance." This was the first instance of Spirit baptism in the New Testament. Household of Cornelius (Acts 10:44-46) "The Holy Spirit fell upon all who heard the word...

What is speaking in tongues all about?

Image
The answer depends on theological interpretation. Some traditions emphasize tongues as a spiritual gift , while others see it as initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit. Let’s break it down biblically. 1. Tongues as a Spiritual Gift 1 Corinthians 12:4-11 lists speaking in tongues as one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, alongside prophecy, healing, and discernment. Paul makes it clear that not all believers will speak in tongues : “Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?” (1 Corinthians 12:30) – Implied answer: No. This suggests that tongues is one of many gifts, distributed as the Spirit wills (1 Corinthians 12:11), rather than something every believer must experience. 2. Tongues as Initial Evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit The Pentecostal view teaches that speaking in tongues is the initial physical evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit, based on patterns in Acts : Acts 2:4 – The disciples at Pentecost “began to speak in other tong...

Speaking in tongues is evidence of Spirit baptism or a Spirit Gift?

Image
Is speaking in Tongue evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit or one of the Spiritual Gifts?  It depends on the theological framework you are coming from: Classical Pentecostalism (e.g., Assemblies of God, Church of God, Pentecostal Holiness) holds to Position 1, emphasizing that the initial evidence of the baptism in the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. This belief is based on passages such as Acts 2:4, Acts 10:44-46, and Acts 19:6, where believers spoke in tongues immediately after receiving the Holy Spirit. Charismatic and Some Evangelical Traditions lean toward Position 2, which acknowledges tongues as a sign but does not necessarily insist on it as the only or universal evidence. Some argue that other spiritual gifts can also serve as evidence of being filled with the Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:4-11). Final Analysis: If you are coming from a Pentecostal viewpoint, Position 1 is more accurate because it aligns with the doctrine of initial evidence—a core belief in tradi...